Comments on: How to lose all your customers if you are a WISP http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/ It's hard to think of a tagline - All the good ones are taken.. Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:29:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9474 Robert Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:45:42 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9474 Shite! I missed your comment until now Dan, Sorry! I don't think eircom support TLS on POP3 yet. Shite! I missed your comment until now Dan, Sorry!

I don’t think eircom support TLS on POP3 yet.

]]> By: Dankoozy http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9467 Dankoozy Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:06:42 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9467 can she not use TLS on the POP3? can she not use TLS on the POP3?

]]> By: Robert http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9455 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:20:02 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9455 Tiernan, POP3 is comparitively insecure anyway. Sending plaintext passwords etc. For the average user setting up a POP3 account is relatively simple plus don't forget that a large majority of people with eircom.net mail addresses are probably using eircom as their ISP. Setting up an encrypted POP account is adding an extra level of complexity for people who can't/don't want to know about these sort of things. They just want to access their mail. In the case above she had already made her connection to eircom, her ISP's firewall is busy listening to all traffic on port 110. It can probably scan all other traffic too. Tiernan,

POP3 is comparitively insecure anyway. Sending plaintext passwords etc.

For the average user setting up a POP3 account is relatively simple plus don’t forget that a large majority of people with eircom.net mail addresses are probably using eircom as their ISP. Setting up an encrypted POP account is adding an extra level of complexity for people who can’t/don’t want to know about these sort of things. They just want to access their mail.

In the case above she had already made her connection to eircom, her ISP’s firewall is busy listening to all traffic on port 110. It can probably scan all other traffic too.

]]> By: Tiernan OToole http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9454 Tiernan OToole Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:15:50 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9454 they aint cheap either! 100 Quid for 3mb connection... i remember NTL used to have a hidden proxy for web serving years ago, but lucky its gone now... why are eircom still using insecure pop3 though? if your ISP can take your details and pass them on as their own, and take the response, mess with them and pass them back to you, its not very secure on eircom's part either... Gmail have secure pop3 and secure imap so this cant happen... why dont eircom? they aint cheap either! 100 Quid for 3mb connection…

i remember NTL used to have a hidden proxy for web serving years ago, but lucky its gone now… why are eircom still using insecure pop3 though? if your ISP can take your details and pass them on as their own, and take the response, mess with them and pass them back to you, its not very secure on eircom’s part either… Gmail have secure pop3 and secure imap so this cant happen… why dont eircom?

]]> By: Robert http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9446 Robert Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:42:23 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9446 They are probably proxying as well Dan, I know quite a few ISP's provide transparent proxying to their customers. That's not necessarily a bad thing as it can actually speed things up a bit for the customers. Modifying that content is another story though! They are probably proxying as well Dan, I know quite a few ISP’s provide transparent proxying to their customers.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing as it can actually speed things up a bit for the customers. Modifying that content is another story though!

]]> By: Dankoozy http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9445 Dankoozy Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:58 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9445 would this only affect port 110? i wonder what other kind of snooping they are doing. probably some port 80 stuff as well. this is almost as bad as meteor and trying to disable STARTTLS on port 25 even though they will probably say its for preventing spam would this only affect port 110? i wonder what other kind of snooping they are doing. probably some port 80 stuff as well. this is almost as bad as meteor and trying to disable STARTTLS on port 25 even though they will probably say its for preventing spam

]]> By: Kieran McCarthy http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9444 Kieran McCarthy Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:42:14 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9444 Good post Robert, they must be some shower eh! Good post Robert, they must be some shower eh!

]]> By: Robert http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9442 Robert Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:45:29 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9442 Cheers Ruairi, I'd be interested in the alternative. I'll be in touch shortly. Cheers Ruairi,

I’d be interested in the alternative. I’ll be in touch shortly.

]]> By: Ruairi http://robertsweetnam.ie/2010/01/21/how-to-lose-all-your-customers-if-you-are-a-wisp/comment-page-1/#comment-9441 Ruairi Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:35:33 +0000 http://blog.sweetnam.eu/?p=955#comment-9441 Interestingly: - Last weekend, I had to deal with another of their customers who their systems cut off without warning. - They removed their AP from my house as they couldn't make the damn thing work. If your contact is interested, I have an alternative for them. Ruairi Interestingly:

- Last weekend, I had to deal with another of their customers who their systems cut off without warning.

- They removed their AP from my house as they couldn’t make the damn thing work.

If your contact is interested, I have an alternative for them.

Ruairi

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